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  • Let's have a thread for poll ideas. I think a decent one for now would be what research option players assigned Robin. If multiple-selection polls are possible, once Ardford is complete we could do one for which investment options players picked.

    Can we have multiple wiki polls at a time?

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    • - the most useless item in the game (nominee: bow, and crosbow (no use), vibrator and its heavy variant(too much malus compared to whips), ,nalili armor compared to steel armor, revealing negligee compared to sexy lingerie (only 2400), goo in shop (twicemore expensive compared to potion equivalent and can't be sold back) mana and lust wine (less effective than potion eqivalent, more expensive and make you drunk)

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    • Fluid-decanter wrote: Let's have a thread for poll ideas. I think a decent one for now would be what research option players assigned Robin. If multiple-selection polls are possible, once Ardford is complete we could do one for which investment options players picked.

      That it's a great idea! I was thinking about doing the next poll about the management of spoilers in the wiki (a interesting matter, like watching the paint dry more or less) but I like your ideas better.

      I had looked about multiple options poll and I had found this code. Due to the restrictions that Wikia has implemented using Javascript, I'm not entirely comfortable with the idea or reusing the code (it has to be reviewed and re-approved each time you make a change, only Chendler and me can modify it) but I really like multiple options polls. Any feedback on this will be appreciated.


      Fluid-decanter wrote: Can we have multiple wiki polls at a time?

      That it's entirely feasible. My initial idea would be to include one featured poll in the main page with a link to the Wiki Polls page in the Poll box. The poll featured in the main page will rotate weekly between the active polls to give them the same exposure.

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    • Well, it seems that no more ideas are forthcoming for now. So to recap:

      Fluid-decanter: Robin's research-> 3 options. BetatesterFP: Useless equipment -> Vibrators, Princess Armor, Revealing Negligee, Bought goo, magical wines: it would left out the Bows because I have a feeling that they will be used by a future party member... or not. So five or six options. Let me know what you wish to do with the Bows today as I'm plannin to setup them tomorrow.

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    • Next week we could have a poll on whether we voted Yes or No on the first day of the Summit.

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    • I agree there is a good chance we are going to get a bow wielding member. 

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    • As for poll ideas, how about a "most hated Boss" poll?

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    • Fluid-decanter: duly noted. That it's a easy one.

      Argenten: that's a great idea. But we should create a preliminary list first (as Betatester has done). I would suggest that yu limit it to no more that 9 candidates or so.

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    • Will do tomorrow gladly, but right now my bed is calling me and I'm in danger of going deaf.

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    • Good night then. I'm just starting the day myself.

      The poll page has been created. As Decanter was the one with the idea, his poll it's the first one to be also featured in the Main Page.

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    • Hey Argenten:

      How is the list going? Do you need any help?

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    • Nah, I'll admit I totally spaced with all the stuff I have going on. Should have the list done in a couple of days now that you have reminded me. 

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    • Here's a list we can whittle as desired.

      Required bosses:
      Riala
      Yarra (doesn't really count)
      Cache Guardian
      Tal, Chosen of Ivala
      Chimera
      Knight (at Ransacked Farm)
      Portal Demon
      Seed of Corruption
      Hilstara
      Ogre
      Noble Scion
      Unhuman
      The Impaler
      Varia's mutinous gang
      Animated Gargoyles
      Balia's orc sentinels
      Order trial (Fire, Ice, Lightning)
      Order trial (colorful constructs)
      Order trial (Heaven and Earth)
      Aramite Elite

      Optional bosses:
      Slaver Mages
      Heart of Horror
      Fallen Chosen
      Order trial (Wind and Water)
      Demonic Essences
      Concrete Demon
      Magekillers
      Supercharged Nalili
      Succubus Smuggler
      Consuming Desire
      Elite Succubus
      The Empress
      Dire Spiders (lol)
      Slayer

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    • Unhuman

      Stone Gargoyles

      Heart of Horror

      Demonic Essence

      Concrete Demon

      Fallen Chosen


      These are the ones I'd like to go with. Not too many but enough that it feels like a decent selection.

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    • Seems like a good selection, but because I'm that weird I would suggest to substitute one of the optional boss (you have 4) for one mandatory boss (you only have two) *lol*.

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    • ...That's pretty sharply limited, in my opinion. Surely the poll framework supports more than six? I would at least add in Portal Demon and the optional Order trial.

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    • Lostone wanted mo more than nine but yeah, lets add portal Demon and optional order trial to that as well...with the slayer to round it off.

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    • The framework supports more than six, that is true. I suggested limit the number to a single digit, but it's not a imposition. We could always do two polls: one for Required Bosses and other for Optional Bosses...

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    • I made my selections for my poll, anything else i leave up to you.

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    • Added both the Boos and the vote polls to the page.

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    • The "Boos"...is casper involved? :P 

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    • One never knows with SL ;-) .

      *Blush* *lol* It's time for me to sleep...

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    • Maybe there should be a Boob poll...who is thought to have the best breasts?

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    • Just wanted to comment and say that I didn't even notice Slayer was a boss.... >_>; That might explain why I took so much damage without paying attention to it. ... *facepalm*

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    • Yeah that thing is brutal to say the least.

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    • EVERYTHING was hitting me pretty hard and I was relying on killing for damage reduction as opposed to defensive buffs (didn't occur to me to swap to Hilstara/Carina till AFTER I was done) so I spent most of the fight just making sure Qum and Simon were ready to revive. ... which also meant I stopped paying attention to how much damage I was doing or that it was a boss.. I thought it was just another hard regular enemy.... whoops.

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    • Maybe a poll for who is your favourite Harem member so far? Needs to be an actual member instead of a potential one.

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    • If it's possible to have a 11 choices poll: best response to Antarion's [Blademaster] attempt to pick up a party member...

      Every woman have one and all of them are funny in their own way.

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    • 101.190.162.238 wrote: Maybe a poll for who is your favourite Harem member so far? Needs to be an actual member instead of a potential one.

      Would it include both Party members and Non-party members?

      Ripett wrote: If it's possible to have a 11 choices poll: best response to Antarion's [Blademaster] attempt to pick up a party member...

      Every woman have one and all of them are funny in their own way.

      It's not a bad idea, but I honestly can't say that I remember all of them well enough to be able to pick one. So a recap will be nice, I think.

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    • Lostone2 wrote:

      101.190.162.238 wrote: Maybe a poll for who is your favourite Harem member so far? Needs to be an actual member instead of a potential one.

      Would it include both Party members and Non-party members?


      Ripett wrote: If it's possible to have a 11 choices poll: best response to Antarion's [Blademaster] attempt to pick up a party member...

      Every woman have one and all of them are funny in their own way.

      It's not a bad idea, but I honestly can't say that I remember all of them well enough to be able to pick one. So a recap will be nice, I think.


      Would just initial line and response be enough or would it have to be entire conversation?

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    • The initial line and answer is fine by me.

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    • The Harem would have everyone travelling with Simon except for Robin. Potential members, such as Sarai, would not be included.

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    • Antarion: Oh, you're back. You trained enough for a night with me?

      Aka: Are you just that determined, or that bad at taking a hint?

      Antarion: My parents always told me to follow my dreams... can I follow you home?

      Trin: Gosh mister, I'll swoon if you keep ta~

      Simon: Trin, no.

      Antarion: Is it true that elves don't eat meat? Want to try a... different kind?

      Altina: Oh. Oh my, no, I'll pass...

      Antarion: Can I show you to theologian? Because you're proof that angels exist!

      Megail: Angels don't exist.

      Antarion: Are you a buffet? Because I could eat you all day!

      Yarra: Oh there'd be eating of some kind...

      Antarion: Do you have a map? Because I'm lost in your eyes.

      Varia: ...

      Antarion: Any other men lost in those beautiful eyes of yours?

      Varia: They were, but they fell prey to bandits. Shame.

      Antarion: I'm glad I follow Ivala, because you look like the answer to my prayers!

      Carina: Did you pray for a celibate priestess?

      Antarion: You look like a girl who could ride long and hard.

      Hilstara: I've always been more infantry then cavalry.

      Antarion: Are you a table with three legs? Because~

      Robin: I'm sorry but you're too young for me.

      Antarion: If being sexy was a crime, the guards would be taking you straight to prison!

      Nalili: That'd be such a stupid law, what are y~

      Nalili: Oh, you want to fuck me! Why didn't you just say that?

      Antarion: Can you help me find my jaw? Because when I saw you, I dropped it.

      Qum D'umpe: Oh no! Cumdump will help look!

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    • Darn, why did it mess up my formating? It added double spacing and removed spaces between lines...

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    • 101.190.162.238 wrote: The Harem would have everyone traveling with Simon except for Robin. Potential members, such as Sarai, would not be included.

      So, no Balia? That means 10 options, if I had counted right.

      Ripett wrote: Darn, why did it mess up my formating? It added double spacing and removed spaces between lines...

      The format in the Wikia forums is kind of wonky.

      Thanks for taking the time to collect the cites. They will be added before the text of the poll.

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    • Favorite harem member will be a pretty unwieldy poll by the end. Perhaps we should split that poll up in some logical way. Perhaps by chapter of acquisition? We could have "favorite girl added to harem in Chapter 1", and later we could have "favorite girl added to harem in Chapter 2". Though if we do that, it may be good not to do Chapter 2's poll immediately, if we acquire any girls at the very end of Chapter 2 who have not had a chance to shine yet.

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    • It's a nice concept but I have to say I think decanter has it right that it'll be tricky at the best of times with the fact that the story is still growing.

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    • the favorite girl should add " in a fight" or "in a sex scene" or "for chatting".

      some other ideas

      - favorite sex scene in chapter X ?

      - which NPC do you really want to see in Simon suite  ?

      - which incubus king do you want to fight right now (not the most hatred but the one you think you can handle)?

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    • I like the last option the most, as based on what we've seen in the Gathering and Simon's path...I think the Arsehole of Arclent is the only one. The Bloodlord seems like he's more in tune with his shard in the sense of being a better fighter. The Fucklord has a larger shard and more raw power. And the rest are too powerful.

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    • I bet I could beat the Skullcrusher. ;D

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    • Skullcrusher could be brought back as a zombie!

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    • Well... I'll say this. Given Esthere's comments to Simon about how the shards can't be controlled and that they want to eat up other people's shards, everyone at the Gathering has to be of sufficient power that directly overpowering them risks weakening them to the other lustlords or they are under the protection of the Lustlord whilst in his domain (probably both). I'd argue this means that the difference in power between the shards might not be as large as implied.

      ... although this begs a new question now that I consider it. ... Where did the Skullcrusher's shard go....?

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    • It will likely reform somewhere else around the world.

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    • Thormented wrote:
      Where did the Skullcrusher's shard go....?

      I bet one reason the Lustlord hosts Gatherings in his land is so that he can monitor the whole thing and gank the shard in an event like this.

      The succubi and other resources' fate is also unknown, but they probably got distributed among the other Kings to pacify them.

      ...ah, but we should probably take this to the speculation thread.

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    • Poll ideas from 0.17... I don't think an investment poll is very straightforward, to be honest, since there are so many variables. However, we can vote on whether we tried to save the orcs, and on whom we chose for Nalili to train with.

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    • I was thinking about doing one about the name of the Chapter 3, just to see if we can guess it...

      BTW, I will change the poll on the Main Page Monday or Tuesday. Also I'm planning to add to the rooster Rippet's poll.

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    • Lostone2 wrote: I was thinking about doing one about the name of the Chapter 3, just to see if we can guess it...

      It's a bit late, since patrons can already see it in the new build.

      BTW, I will change the poll on the Main Page Monday or Tuesday. Also I'm planning to add to the rooster Rippet's poll.

      We should wait until the public release; there is a new line for Antarion in the patron build. I doubt it will be anyone's favorite, but nonetheless.

      These will need much space - perhaps Antarion should just have a wiki page for these conversations.

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    • Fluid-decanter wrote: [snip] It's a bit late, since patrons can already see it in the new build.

      Oh, well. I was not entirely convinced that it was such a good idea in the first place...

      Fluid-decanter wrote: We should wait until the public release; there is a new line for Antarion in the patron build. I doubt it will be anyone's favorite, but nonetheless.

      These will need much space - perhaps Antarion should just have a wiki page for these conversations.

      You're right in both points.

      There is no compelling reason to add it now.

      For a brief period I considered to add them as notes, but it makes more sense to write them down in a page.

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    • Seeing that the 0.17.4 release will probably be released today (I was hoping for a Friday release) and it had slipped my mind until now *blush*, I'm going to add Antarion lines to his page (I'm really unsure if there will be more cont to be added there, so from my part it will be a pretty simple one). Another is an idea of Betatester about which IK do you prefer to take now...

      Also I will be adding two more about the summit: War Vaults and Orc campaign. Anyone have any other proposal? We still have time.

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    • How about a poll for who went through the process of grinding the Vinario Prince into a whimpering puddle?

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    • Love the Antarion poll - it's hard to choose, since so many of them are hilarious. I went with Qum because I love her innocent, earnest view of the world, whether it's deliberate on her part or not.

      Another suggestion: "What name did you choose for Simon's upgraded support skill?" (Support Allies / Support Servants / Support Slaves). I prefer to think of the party members as allies, and I reckon that's what Simon would choose, but perhaps my Simon is not the same as everyone else's Simon...

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    • You didn't like the Nalili trainer idea, lostone2?

      Lamsey wrote: suggestion: "What name did you choose for Simon's upgraded support skill?" (Support Allies / Support Servants / Support Slaves). I prefer to think of the party members as allies, and I reckon that's what Simon would choose, but perhaps my Simon is not the same as everyone else's Simon...

      We didn't do that? Huh, I guess we should then. Also, welcome to the wiki~

      I actually went with "Support Servants", for a combination of reasons: I don't think these names are necessarily how Simon thinks of them, everyone Simon supports is serving his will in a sense, it doesn't imply all the bad things slavery does, and I like alliteration. Mostly the latter two.

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    • Fluid-decanter wrote: You didn't like the Nalili trainer idea, lostone2?

      Lamsey wrote: suggestion: "What name did you choose for Simon's upgraded support skill?" (Support Allies / Support Servants / Support Slaves). I prefer to think of the party members as allies, and I reckon that's what Simon would choose, but perhaps my Simon is not the same as everyone else's Simon...

      We didn't do that? Huh, I guess we should then. Also, welcome to the wiki~

      I actually went with "Support Servants", for a combination of reasons: I don't think these names are necessarily how Simon thinks of them, everyone Simon supports is serving his will in a sense, it doesn't imply all the bad things slavery does, and I like alliteration. Mostly the latter two.

      Nalili's training poll was an oversight on my part. But I'm not sure if you feel like Simon should be included or if you want to included Varia's both versions as two, as the Dominated one sounds pretty scary to Nalili.

      Hi Lamsey. Nice to meet you. I hope to see you around here.

      About Simon's skill name, that it's a good one. It will be added to Decanter's training one but I think that there won't be anymore for now. I don't want to make the page look like a quiz.

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    • Lostone2 wrote: Nalili's training poll was an oversight on my part. But I'm not sure if you feel like Simon should be included or if you want to included Varia's both versions as two, as the Dominated one sounds pretty scary to Nalili.

      Ah, good question. I don't think it matters to include Simon since he isn't a real option; it just affects affection a little. Varia, though... hm, yes, let's separate them. One can always add the two numbers mentally.

      I think that there won't be anymore for now. I don't want to make the page look like a quiz.

      lol, reasonable.

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    • I agree, most stuff we could put in a poll at this point would be too speculative and vague. 

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    • Added the two polls previously mentioned (sorry for the delay).

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    • I have an idea for a new poll, could ask people what they focused more on? Immediate military goals and keeping orc numbers high or taking heavy casualties to limit the damage of the battles?

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    • A suggestion: Who will be the next Incubus King to be dethroned? Or something similar.

      I use "dethroned" instead of "killed" because of the Empress' uncertain final fate.

      The nice thing is that the question can be recycled with a minor adjustment to the possible answers every time an IK bites the dust.

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    • In the newest update there are two characters and one must make a choice which one to work with. This seems an easy thing to make into a poll, once it becomes public.

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    • Bumping up Fluid-decanter's suggestion, as this is the obvious poll choice for the last release - which of the two you choose to ally with.

      Another possible question is whether the player has chosen the same person twice, or has helped the one first (at the meeting) and then chosen the other, though the order is less consequential. With some creativity, the two questions can be combined into one poll with four options.

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    • Many complex choices in this update, and I'm not sure most can be reduced to single-selection polls... but the dwarf diplomacy one might be a decent poll idea.

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    • Guess I'll roll with that then.

      I'm also considering retiring a few polls. Best Antarion's pickup line, Nalili's Training, Support Skill name - their results are unlikely to change any further. Well, Antarion might get new pickup lines if we see him again, but that would deserve a fresh poll.

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    • There might be a lot of options but a poll on the various investments in the house of petitions seems like a vaible poll idea, considering the sheer number and how they could affect Yhilin, it could work on helping people know which ones seem most viable. 


      I personally tend to start with either Infrastructure and Magic organizing or Elf reboot, Orc "Pretty march" Magic organization, the Brothel investment, and the statue because why not :P

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    • I would love to do a poll for the various investments, but the problem is that Wikia's poll function is quite rudimentary, and a respondent can only select one response. So if you invested in even two things, it's pretty much impossible to have a poll option that reflects your choices.

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    • Good point, maybe top pick?

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    • A poll idea may be what are you focusing on with the orcs with Balia: Strength, Intelligence, or Discipline. Right now strength doesn't seem to have much value, but both intelligence and discipline control a few things, such as the cost of the fancy walk investment. It might be interesting to see what people are prioritizing.

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    • There could be questions about specific investments like: Which border you have reinforced or plan to reinforce in the future? (Aram/Ardoheim/Both/Neither) The only problem is that we don't know how much funds we'll have across the chapter (and possibly beyond).

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    • We could also do a speculation poll. For example, we could have something like, "Simon's travelled to the elven kingdoms, and he'll be visiting Zirantia next. Where will he be heading after that?" You could list Ardoheim, Aram, Eustrin, and Incubus Emperor's Domain. You might even include Zirantia and the elven kingdoms if you think they might receive a repeat visit. If you really wanted to, you could list locations on other continents, since it's possible that will be his next destination.

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    • I've seen no suggestion on "What is your third research topic ?"

      (Since yesterday I must disable adblocker to be able to respond to forum topics)

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    • Some pretty good ideas to keep in reserve, thanks. We could do the research topic one several times but that might get boring - maybe eventually we will have a poll about which one was least important.

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    • And that one is tricky as all 3 of the initial ones had effects on the main battle and aftermath.

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    • I guess an obvious poll would be which support option Simon picks at the very end.

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    • Indeed, could do a poll based on likely the voters think Wynn will join the group

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    • I'd second doing the next poll on whether you chose to support the OLZ or no one at the end of 0.24.

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    • Well, now we have Qum's research, which is a one-time chance, so that's one possible poll. Could also do one for which investigation we have Dari focus on, though that seems less interesting to me, so it might just stay on the Wiki polls page if we do it at all.

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    • We could also do which site you selected for the airship port.

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    • I like the idea of the site. I'm not entirely convinced that two options are better than the other two... Could be the expert be biased?

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    • Possibly, I know that it's doable for the East sight to get the 'everyone was very impressed' response if you pull off the right combo of actions, I think the sites the expert mentioned would be better classified as theh 'easiest' options as it were, the northern or eastern sights require more effort to get the same result as the southern or western but pay off better as well in other means like acceptance or removing negative elements like the Eastern Merchant.

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    • Could also do a poll on which option of Dari's you choose, both with the unpeople motion passing and with it failing?

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    • I retired the Dwarven diplomacy poll, since now everyone knows the best option and that may affect the voting. I think it's better for it to be a snapshot of what people thought before we knew.

      Right now seems like a good time for the Qum research or Dari poll ideas. We will almost certainly find out the effect of at least one of them next update, possibly both.

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    • Both seems fine to me (I would post both), so it's difficult to choose who should be in the Main page.

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    • Might I suggest a poll for what we decided to do with the troops before the war, either focus on Yhilin or sent them to assist Aram.

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    • Bladestormx wrote: Might I suggest a poll for what we decided to do with the troops before the war, either focus on Yhilin or sent them to assist Aram.

      This would be an alright idea, except that you actually get different options based on what the outcome of the border incident was. We could, however, do a survey of what options people were presented with.

      Alternately, there's still time for the Qum research poll idea.

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    • Hmm then I suggest the Qum poll instead then

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    • Qum poll created.

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    • A FANDOM user
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